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Sharon
New Zealand
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Posted - 15/07/2010 : 09:32:49
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Hi everyone... I'm hoping this is the right place to post this .. I couldn't find any particular area with a list. I have a Flemish girl Perky who lives inside and has the run of the house, she's about 3yrs and a little over a year ago she got an abscess on the right side of her face between her eye and her nose, well to make a long story shorter, we had it removed and the vet did a fantastic job, it healed fast and beautifully. But a couple of months ago it returned same place as the last one...took hr back to the vet and he removed 2 teeth and thought that would be the end of it... lump didn't go down so back to vets a week later for the abscess to be removed ... which he didn't do this time ...just sliced it open and squeezed as much out as he could...took he back a week later and he decided it wasn't going down so he started digging in her face with scissors to make room for the tablet to be inserted... safe to say after the agony our poor Perky had to endure without any pain relief he didn't get the tablet in!... well the abscess did go down with meds but just less than a month after it's come back... bigger and nastier than before but I don;t want to take her back to this vet...so hopping there might be another here in Auckland you guys could recommend? Will this abscess thing get worse and keep coming back faster and faster?...
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sarah
    
New Zealand
1006 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2010 : 16:02:15
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Hi
I had a bunny with an abcess the vet sedated her and took xrays and you could see the root tooth spurs through her jaw into her head so she was sadly euthanased. All abcesses with bunnies need to be operated on usually with a drain also put in and strong antibiotics like tripen or duplocillin the penicillin based safe ones for bunnies are used.
I use Shaun at north shore vet clinic they treated and xrayed my last bunny with an abcess. Abcesses in the jaw can come back and are hard to treaet so need the correct clean out and antibiotic cover. Some can recover perfectly fine. If its not lanced properly the bugs can encapsulate into a hard lump deep into the abcess and will be hard to treat.
Let us know how you get on
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Sitereh
 
New Zealand
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Posted - 15/07/2010 : 16:04:21
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Hi Sharon, It would have been ok to post in the area of "injuries to your rabbits". Possibly something could have triggered everything off like a bump. Each rabbit is different, some injuries are fixed by the vet in only a few visits others take a little longer.
Sometimes what you see is only what is happening on the surface. The issue could be deeper and bigger.
Really hard to know what to do but another opinion is always good if you are in doubt.
I don't know any Auckalnd vets at all. Maybe someone can email you info.
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Sharon
New Zealand
10 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2010 : 18:17:59
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Thanks guys ... I've been almost certain this is all due to a blocked tear duct ... before her first abscess she did suffer from a weepy eye and the vet I took her to had no idea about rabbits. But I've found the Ponsonby Vets have loads of experience with small pets including rats etc so am going to take Perky Saturday for their opinion :O))
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sarah
    
New Zealand
1006 Posts |
Posted - 16/07/2010 : 07:34:19
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Hi Sharon
My first doe who had an abcess in her jaw had a weepy eye its common to get this in that area. Your vet needs to xray the area to see if teeth are involved and then sedate your bunny and thoroughly clean the area out
Let us know how you get on. It is hard as alot of vets do not know much about rabbits let alone that there are infact safe penicillin antibitoics you can give that will help kill the bad abcess bugs in abcesses even special beads they can put into the area. You can even culture s sample of the abcess to identify the bugs. Most vets give baytril.
When you can use baytril, oxytet, duplocillin, tripen etc etc
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Sharon
New Zealand
10 Posts |
Posted - 16/07/2010 : 08:39:37
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Thanks Sarah, you have to be so careful about vets they say they know but they don't when you compare with others that do know. Yes I think we are going to be very happy with this new vet, well fingers are crossed :) She did say they would more than likely put in a bead since it's an abscess that is a returning one. Will def let you know how it goes!
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sarah
    
New Zealand
1006 Posts |
Posted - 16/07/2010 : 12:24:16
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such a good idea the beads not many if any do these and they usually have penicillin in them.
Great i am pleased you are getting somewhere !
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Sharon
New Zealand
10 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2010 : 11:42:16
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Well have just got back from the vets and not such great news... seems she has another abscess on her lower jaw, he can do surgery but there is no guarantees because of the fact both are on her face and evidently in the bone, cost would be around $800. which I just don't have, we could get weekly injections of penicillin started with c can't remember the name sorry... but that would only be temporary until surgery... I think the only option we have will be to put her down latter when it looks like pain is too much...
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FernRo Roz
   
New Zealand
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Posted - 17/07/2010 : 13:55:02
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So sorry to hear that Sharon, I really feel for you. I think your decision is the right one, as the vet cannot give you a guarantee, and in my opinion not worth putting her through all the pain and discomfort of operation when you do not know if it will work. We have all had these hard decisions to make, but for the love of our animals they are the right ones. Regards Roz'. |
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Sharon
New Zealand
10 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2010 : 15:22:52
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Thanks Roz.. We have a bit more time with her though so will just enjoy her while she's happy.
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sarah
    
New Zealand
1006 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2010 : 15:48:11
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sorry to hear that Sharon. I had mine put down 3-4 months back. It was going to cost $200-400 for surgery etc. It cost $160 for the xrays and to have her euthed. Very sad. $800 seems very excessive ! My last one i had operated on was $300 2 years ago at Western Vets and came through the surgery but at that stage he wouldnt use penicillin based antibiotics. Long story cut short she was euthed as the bugs worked there way into her jaw.
Sorry for the sad decision you may have to make
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Sharon
New Zealand
10 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2010 : 16:20:35
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Western vets was the one I used to use and I'll never use him again. I'm sorry for your loss...sounds a lot like my experiences with him too... Yes this vet is a little more expensive but in saying that Perky's abscess's are in 2 different places so essentially it would have been 2 ops in one and 2 lots of beads etc so would probably work out only a bit more expensive but cheaper in the long run having a proper job done the first time.
Sorry feel a little bitter towards old western vets at present!
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sarah
    
New Zealand
1006 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2010 : 16:28:21
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I use to use them when i worked for Auckland Cat Rescue and Trevor was the vet i did teach him a few things about drugs to use etc and bugs that rabbits can catch. nice guy then i used them not so long ago and its a different vet. My rabbit had a prolapsed uterus and the vet said she woke up then died. She never came out of anaesthetic sadly enough. It was in the weekend and my north shore vets wasnt open
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stella
   
New Zealand
264 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2010 : 16:39:13
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Hi Sharon, sorry to hear of your poor bunnys experience Have you ever tried the Great South Rd vet? They have some very high tech equipment there (like x-ray machines etc) and give you a quote for any surgery that might need doing and they are very resonably priced. I had a senior bunny that needed eye surgery, and 3 other vets that I took him to didnt know what it was,but this vet was able to look right into the eye ball...and he fixed it...for $150 http://www.greatsouthvets.co.nz/ If you go there tho, be sure to ask for William as there is a younger guy there and I dont recommend him ;-/ Apparently the vet Sarah uses is good also (the one over the shore) |
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Sharon
New Zealand
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Posted - 17/07/2010 : 16:57:20
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Thanks Stella will check them out...a second opinion might be good :)
Sarah the one there at the present is an Indian man and he is most difficult to talk to or even suggest anything to... but there you go ..lesson learned the hard way
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buda
 
New Zealand
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Posted - 19/07/2010 : 11:22:27
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We have shopped around for vets and the best vet for rabbits that we have found are Lynfield vets.
http://www.vetsforpets.co.nz/content/view/8/35/.
We had a bunny in a coma for about 3 days - shopped around for vets who said that our rabbit would be dead in the morning. Asked the vet where we should take our rabbit if he made it through the night and the vet reccomended Lynfield. Lynfield nursed our rabbit back to health when other vets told us that he wouldn't make it. |
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sarah
    
New Zealand
1006 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2010 : 12:36:47
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and you always hear things good and bad about different vets. I have heard some shocking
Then i hear they are great with birds and reptiles. So it can vary to which vet is on the day and who is rabbit savy
I always ring Angela Mc Fall if i have a problem she is wonderful ! very rabbit savy indeed !!
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stella
   
New Zealand
264 Posts |
Posted - 19/07/2010 : 14:58:26
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I second Sarah with that! I wouldnt go anywhere near some vets, plus some are far over-priced, and NOT exotic vets. |
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sarah
    
New Zealand
1006 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2010 : 17:19:26
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a friend of mine took her bunny to the vet yesterday in albany and had her 17 week old bunny operated on as it had a huge abcess on its cheek. It was $190 one massive hole. They werent going to operate but just give antibiotics and i told her to say no that she wanted it drained as that is really the only way to get the infection out. Its doing well so far. The abcess was behind the muscle in its cheek
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Sharon
New Zealand
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Posted - 22/07/2010 : 18:03:58
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Oh thats great ...so nice to hear good news :) Perky is doing well ...well as well as she can but were told the abscess on her face is in an iffy place being very very close to her eye.. the lumps are huge now ...in only a week they have more than doubled in size so don't know how long we'll have left but she's still happy and eating etc well...
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sarah
    
New Zealand
1006 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2010 : 20:20:27
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Yeah the bunny hopefully will make it and yes its in her cheek very near her eye! freaky how they left such a huge hole i can see the muscle. I am going to inject herwith antibiotics tomorrow.
Great to hear perky is hanging on in there
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