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Ang McFall

New Zealand
451 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2010 :  22:05:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't cull either Kerstin... angora people do seem to be very soft (like their bunnies)!! LOL
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Ang McFall

New Zealand
451 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2010 :  22:07:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, and it is page A2 in the standards Kerstin (under general disqualifications-all breeds)
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Vivelly

New Zealand
798 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2010 :  00:22:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How can you cull an Angora Angela...lol just look at their faces, the heart melts.
oh....I see, I was certain I did read it somewhere.
Could that be changed maybe to the British Standard so that it is only a fault, not a DQ?
you have mail Angela...:-)
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Admin

New Zealand
1159 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2010 :  12:19:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I don't remember saying that 4 letter word.

I have my mentor or mental working with me on Angoraa too, Molly.

Sitereh

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bunni mad

New Zealand
448 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2010 :  15:48:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A lot more fun when you have someone to ramble on about problems and successes with :) Kerstin has helped me heaps :)

Molly
Sapphire Rabbitry
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alleykat

New Zealand
22 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2010 :  15:52:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there all ... my 'two cents' worth of comments here...
With limited numbers of breeders of Angoras in New Zealand (like in most countries).. and with the Angora being such a high maintenance bunny... culling is a neccessity... (unfortunately)... we cannot keep all... and ONLY the best must be kept... if the breed is to move forward and not regress....
I say.. be 'strong' in your direction that you want to breed for, whether it is for show, fibre, whatever, and stick to your goals...
For me... colour, and density of fibre are the most important, because I spin in rather prolific amounts...I certainly won't pass over an exceptional animal.... if a 'white' toenail comes forward in a coloured animal...
Anyway... this is just my point of view... everybody looks at their situation in a different light....

Cheers

Kathryn
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Mistywood

New Zealand
422 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2010 :  16:40:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am always careful that I dont sell my angoras to anyone with the culling mentality.& would hate it if any went to someone so hard hearted.....that is one of the reasons I breed so rarely..fortunately spinners or special pet people dont mind those sort of faults & I feel easy care coats are important..
White toenails are not always a genetic fault however & for showing we are striving for perfection (mans idea of perfection as we like playing God I guess!)and as here in NZ its a DQ rule we as judges have to abide by that rule
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Vivelly

New Zealand
798 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2010 :  17:32:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am with you on that one Lyn.
I do understand the point of view about culling, but myself am unable to. The moment I put down a healthy animal just because of a fault I will stop breeding.
Culling does speed goals up for sure, but I rather do it the longhaul then.
I feel that I dont have the right to decide what lives and what doesnt and I am attached to all my babies from day 1, we name them and love them and thats the only way for us to keep them. jmo
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Ang McFall

New Zealand
451 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2010 :  22:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I disagree about culling being a necessity. Our gene pool is soooooo small... and you want to shrink it even more!!
Harsh culling practises will be the nail in the coffin for our rare, beloved breed.
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Vivelly

New Zealand
798 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2010 :  10:06:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, thing is with the culling of rare breeds, you keep yourself to a bare minimum of selected animals and make yourself vulnerable to loss. Calici can kill even vaccinated stock, or you can have other deseases or disasters, I have seen it happen. I do believe that each animal is important for us to keep the lines going...even if they are not "perfect" they still carry precious bloodlines and could throw beautiful animals. I also believe in the importance of sharing our lines, we are too vulnerable to keep them in one rabbitry. Only if we work together we can make sure they are as safe as they can be in this country. my opinion only...
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bunni mad

New Zealand
448 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2010 :  10:49:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agree with kerstin, ang and lyn. I would for ever be asking myself, what if? that bunny could have potentially thrown gorgeous bunnies, or grown into its looks
JMO

Molly
Sapphire Rabbitry
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Vivelly

New Zealand
798 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2010 :  12:28:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is another important point there Molly... my ugly Duckling here is turning into a swan. :-) Took 7 months to come out and my golly she has personality..lol

Edited by - Vivelly on 02/04/2010 12:29:41
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